
Kuntal De:
Hunger is essentially a result of poverty...we often forget poverty and hunger have most cruel impact on our past and future...our elderly and our children. Another google logo for International Poverty Alleviation day, with hope that the corporates would respect those whose skeletons build their wall streets...
Dickie Humphries:
as for you comments on cruel impacts i fully agree - i might challenge you Kuntal on first statement here - is poverty a determinatant of hunger or do hunger and poverty share the same determinants? - i would say that poverty and hunger are co-symptoms of the same broken system - the danger, i believe, of linking hunger to poverty is that it reinforces this "aid mentality" - which is fine in a short term crisis - but famine/poverty relief become the glamour boy solutions and we can lose sight of the longer term impacts that can be made if we examine our relationship to the system - i commodify my compassion when i put a dollar in the Red Cross bucket then proceed to throw away half my dinner -
Kuntal De
Hey Dickie hope you enjoyed your Melbourne stay.
Well my perspective was this:
Traditionally hunger could easily be attributed to direct causes related to the capacity or inability of producing food. Most of the cases of hunger could be directly linked to Natural disaster, landholding and loss, diseases and dying manpower. Well of course politics, Wars played a role but often that cause of hunger was well within local geographical boundaries. But today loss of income is a major cause of hunger than the issues directly related to land and production loss. Amongst the socio-economically disadvantaged groups mostly money is the only power to get to food unlike their ability to work, which got them food directly, even 75 years back (particularly across the most hungry nations today). Loss of livelihood cannot be attributed to only land loss- its migration, its urbanization, its capitalism and decaying welfare framework, it's the post modern economy and forced globalization of service centric economy and dilution of production focus, an finally institutionalization of judging human capacity (education, jobs, arts, science) on parameters that overrules daily needs of food, shelter and environment. So I would, to some extent, defend my comment saying that today the poverty is loss of livelihood from an extremely complex social fabric that defocuses capacity of human species to produce; and hence the conversion of human ability into money becomes the major source for earning food leading to hunger.
I do agree with your comment on “aid mentality”. But you know looking at those Banks and Industries getting doled out of the last couple of economic crisis, I am just wondering how could we impose the blame on people whose ability we have snatched and misplaced in our growing economies! Looking back, asking for alms arises from the inability to repay loans. In a barter system, food (or any other goods) could be loaned from a source and the return was dependent upon the individual or the community’s regaining of its strength, either to produce or to toil (of course the human greed had skewed it up too!). Now if we take away the capacity of the individual and the community to pay back the loan, begging slips in and the loan turns into an aid! So before we stop aid, we need to look at the community capacity and build them the chance to be able to pay back! Most of the aid today is not holistic and completely overlook rebuilding the local social system that has capacity to return the loan or be sustainable using the aid as seed support. Do you think, even, any of the capitalist donors would support the local religious body, even if they have the capacity to rebuild the very doctrine that holds that society together? Not after Das Capital!!
Well that was long one, and last bit is that today’s poverty is as much loss of livelihood as it is our (I am talking about the upwardly mobile middle class of the world living the iPad dream) mental poverty that forgets to count economic return in gratitude and not money.







